It does not matter whether your opinion is right or wrong, you cannot break the constitution of your organisation.End of story!
Coleman

there goes a saying \" it takes a million people to build a good reputation but it take one stupid full to destroy everything\"
this is exactly what is happening in our mdc party .how can stupid tribalists like ncube ,sibanda and a prodigal sheep like chimanikire try to destroy the covalent bond between million zimbabwean. an elephant can not be stopped from its way by barking dogs ... how can mdc be destroyed by insignificant cowards.hatingapise imba yose nekuda kwegonzo rimwe .chiororo kuri uraya risati rauraya imba yose . lets weed out the drag forces which oppose forward movement for propulsion to occur and continue.
Vincent

Letter from Birmingham- 27th November 2005
Dear Sir,
The long awaited senate elections have come and gone. Never mind the results of the elections, the most important thing is that the majority of Zimbabweans emphatically refused to participate in these elections. Once again, as the ordinary Zimbabweans did at the last referendum, they have refused to be duped by RobertMugabe.It should now be clear to the international community that Robert Mugabe no longer has any political influence in Zimbabwe, save for the power to coerce people and to Brutalise and inflict misery against defenceless citizens, as he did under Gukurahundi, Murambatsvina and the callous displacement of farm workers through the chaotic and unplanned Land Reform Programme.
Reports about the senate election suggest that less than ten percent of the people in Matabeleland provinces turned up to vote. For me that clearly demonstrates a clear and resounding rebuff to those who think that they can continue to exploit Gukurahundi for advancing their self-serving political ambitions and in some cases secessionist aspirations. The majority of Zimbabwean do not want our country to be partitioned .I doubt very much that there will come a time in the foreseeable future when ZANU PF will be able to exert any influence on the citizens of Zimbabwe without having to use force, threats, intimidation, deceit, blatant rigging of elections and corruption. I can safely say that we are now witnessing the end of an era. Good bye ZANU PF.
There is only one political analyst who knows this too well. He is Robert Mugabe. This is why he will tell you that free and fair elections in Zimbabwe will be held over his dead body. Forget about those political analysts who tell you that ZANU PF`s stronghold is in the rural areas without analysing why if that is the case Zanu Pf should risk international isolation by opting for elections whose results are open to dispute, and why it is necessary to prevent others from campaigning freely in those areas. Once again Morgan Tsvangirai has proved that he is the most influential politician in Zimbabwe and the answer to this , in my opinion is simple. Keep in touch with the people. However, I do hope that now that elections are over MDC and progressive civil society will embark on a campaign of mass action to force Mugabe to the negotiating table.Mass action can take the form of a sustained campaign of demonstrations. It does not have to be a one-off event. Various groups such as the MDC, WOZA, ZCTU,students, NCA can take turns to demonstrate and wear out the regime.
This can also eventually galvanise the people into a spirit of resistance. In the diaspora,people can mount a campaign of demonstrating in front of the Zimbabwe embassies and provide donations for legal fees for those facing arrests and detentions. The Vigil are already doing a wonderful job but they need support. Imagine the impact of two hundred people demonstrating in front of the Zimbabwe Embassy in London every month. Progressive Zimbabweans like Professor Mukasa,in America and Sibanda in Johannesburg can mobilise Zimbaweans into similar action in their host countries. This is just a suggestion but I am sure there are many people out there with wonderful ideas on how our struggle can be taken to the next level.
Jonathan Chawora
Human rights political activist based in Birmingham.

those that have been questioning the constitutionality of tsvangirai are better advised to take a few minutes off and exercise an elementary reading of the MDC constitution. article 5.4.1 of that constitution is clear in that it describes the National Council as the \'administrative and implementing authority\' of the party. now any 1st year law student will tell you that that statement does not make it a policy making body of the party. now the lawyers and purported professors of the party must then explain how a body that cannot constitutionally make any decision with regards to the making of policies can claim that its unconstitutional actions have been \'violated\' Tsvangirai as the leader of the party is bound by duty to uphold the values of the party and to disregard an unconstitutional act by the national council and making a stern decision not to participate in these circus elections is part of that duty. it is the decision that resonates with the most power!
ul body of the MDC-the people ........VIVA TSVANGIRAI
Truman

For sure I have come to love the current leadership crisis in the MDC for one simple reason that is it has revealed the qualities and excess trash the party has carried ever since its formation. The 4 pro senate leaders have undressed themseves for us to see how irrelevant they are to our struggle.
Jorge


I have a few things to say in the senate debate currently destabilizing the MDC.These so called pro-senators have double if not trebble standards.1. Democracy is not judged on the basis of the decision of the national council, which is alleged to have annuled an earlier decision that is setting PAul Themba Nyathi and others crazy
2. The MDC is against the senate- that is clear from the arguments they have brought in the parliament against the senate, so whats this top six members about?
3. The majority, of our poor Zimbabweans, and even us intellectuals do not see the value of this so-called senate. There was once a senate in which senators like Nkala and others were lambasting the Ndebele as secessionists and dissidents in the 1980s. The senators of that time showed themselves to be money mongers figting against people\'s will and fundamental human rights. Can Ncube et all do better, worse still in the political climate in which they are operating?
4. Why is Ncube et all blocking Tsvangirai from addressing rallies in Matabeleland, does MDC belong to a tribe. Ncube et all are publicly showing their personalities. They are a violent lot, they can not promote values and freedom of speech that they claim to believe in. Let Tsvangirai also be heard, just as they are not blocked from campaigning as such, which leads me to the other point.
5. Nyathi, Ncube, Sibanda and the other guy Gift have no popular support, hence their denial of Tsvangirai political space to address rallies. They have no power to arouse public opinion, which is very important in politics anyway.
6. Paul Themba Nyathi is recycled garbage and has done a great diservice in the information discermination office of the MDC. I remember that in the 1980s, he was the information officer of ZAPU, and during the dissident era, he failed to counter government propaganda and Ndebele were portrayed thus by Government. He should have shown his prowess and defend the image of the Ndebele people when they were being unfairly publicised as dissidents. He is therefore a failure of the past, and what could make him a success now. In the senate issue, he has contributed more than anyone through his rantings to the destruction of the international image of the MDC.
7. It is clear that since Mugabe will elect other senators outside the ballot, plus the 19 already elected unopposed, and many others they wil win againsta divided MDC, it only means that those MDC contestants will be a very insignificant minority which can not contribute anything save to stand in the long lines at the banks for senators\' pay at the end of the month. Are they not a very selfish lot?
8. The argument that they do not want ZANU to rule or to have their MPS in MDC stronghold come under ZANU control is foolish. CAn they learn from what is happening to the MDC mayors? Is ZANU not rulling those mayors? If they dare oppose ZANU, are they not removed in the most bruttish manner? WHat is important is to mobilise civil disobedience rather than to jostle for power which still seems far off.
9. It seems that Ncube and others no longer recognise Tsvangirai as the president of MDC. Why didi they not come to the special Counci meeting he called. Does Tsvangirai really have no power to call an urgent meeting to solve party issues? Then it means that current MDC constitution does not work at all and must be changed.
Come on Welshman, maybe its time to go back to play with chalk and duster in the UZ? Or say well guys to err is human, lets come back to the fold, or you go to the already discredited UPM which is another ZUM like party, controlled by ZANU functionaries? Time will tell.
Msindo tsvangirai is the best leader we have had in this country for so long. VIVA TSVANGIRAI to hell with Welshman and his bunch of stoogies
Simply

To the pro senate group..... what will you achieve by breaking away? what are your objectives? I cannot believe you have become another Zimbabwean group to fall into the much ado about nothing.... you need to be reminded about the consequences of supping with the devil. Yes you chaps are on the front line, we will never understand the full picture but you must not feel sorry for yourselves...nd by your morals. I am confident that those to remain in these false elections are not supposed to be part of the party...
Ndaguta!


I throughly think the pro Senate group is missing the whole point of a Democratic Party.
Simply democracy means people are free to do what they want to do and be respected by all.
But there must be a leader who guide the people and that forms the umblical code of a cohesive unit.
Being democratic does not mean that you are leaderless you can do what you want. If that happens it means that its a direct mockery .
We hear what Truddy is saying to justify their action but Iam pretty sorry for a view from such a small angel and the angel that all these people should be using is the Zimbabwean population.
This the constituency that must be telling them what to do not keeping on insulting Tvangirayi. Insults we will hear them but will they solve the problem that is being faced by Zimbabweans
Truelly the insulters have lost the plot.
The constitution they are singing about is a mere piece of paper that have got no common sense and that needs human beings.
If this is the democracy they have been advocating in the last 6 years Iam greatly sorry I will not take it.
Morgan Tsvangirayi must start planning beyond the Senate even to relaunch the Party with new themes and leaders.
JOB

Morgan must appreciate his weaknesses in order to move foward. While I do not agree with the issue of participation in the Senate elections, the rebels have some genuine grievances.Firstly, Tsvangirai has sorrounded himself with sycomphants and unelected leaders. This is disastorous becuase these unelected guys abuse the powers of elected leaders. They issue directives to elected authorities and that is not good in a functional democratic party. Tsvangirai should simply respect elected authorities and put aside the secretariat in his office.
Secondly, the MDC National Council met mid this year and resolved that some of the unelected people be fired on various allegations of misconduct but I made to understand that the President ignored that. Surely that is not the way to run a political party as diverse as the MDC. Resolutions of key bodies especially as they deal with issues of discipline should be respected.
It is my view that the rebellion which has taken the cover of non-issues such as participation in Senate election is a way of hitting back at the President\'s desire to keep deadwood and unelected officials at the expense of Congress products. The rebels have no strong cause of participating in the elections expect to defy Tsvangirai and show their anger in the manner in which the unelected guys are ursuping the powers of Congress. I advise Tsvangirai to take heed and desist from further attacking his colleagues in the public and engage them in constructive dialogue. He should not accuse them of being sell-outs without giving concrete evidence and should not play to the gallery. The same applies to Nyathi. The rebels have a genuine case which need to be addressed if the MDC is to remain relevant.
Tsvangirai may be misled into believing that he can do without them, but that is a dangerous miscalculation that will throw the whole institution into the dustbin of history. The \'kitchen Cabinet\' will continue with its misdemeanours activities and destroy the party for ever.
It is my submission that the rebels do not believe in elections but are hitting back at the abuses they have suffered at the hands of unelected officials. These people exit and are the ones who are shielding Tsvangirai from engaging his colleagues becuase they know they have no future in the party. Tsvangirai should know that he would benefit with the rest of his elected colleagues than with the unelected officials. The same applies to the other faction. There are also unelected officials who needed to be weeded out but the only problem is that the unelected officials in the rebel camp have no power.
It is also danagerous at this point in time to start firing people at the midst of such a crisis. I submit that Tsvangirai is being misled or is misleading himself. People should not be fired yet. The dust should settle. Sit down with colleagues and agree on taking disciplinary measures against those who are going over bound. Such decisions will hold becuase they are made with the consensus and whoever is fired has no where to go except to respect the decision but when someone is fired and appeals to the other faction, the whole process becomes a circus.
If the MDC falls apart today, it will be blamed on Tsvangirai as the leader not the unelected officials or even the rebels. In history only leaders are known or remembered not small guys. Thats why people talk of Hitler, Mugabe, Mobuto(the bad guys) and Mandela, Nkomo, Chitepo (the good) and not their surbodinates.
Tsvangirai, Ncube, Sibanda and Matongo if they are genuine Zimbabweans must sort out this mess quickly. Zimbabweans did not die so that they can play games with their blood. News papers were bombed and banned becuase of the call for democracy. Fundamentally Tsvangirai must come down, be humble, do not feel humiliated and engage your peers. That is politics. Dont be a hardman. It is not late.IT IS NOT ABOUT SENATE ELECTION MORGAN. IT IS ABOUT THE UNELECTED OFFICIALS. THESE PEOPLE HAVE ISOLATED YOU FROM ELECTED OFFICIALS FOR THEIR PERSONAL BENEFITS. THEY HAVE TREATED PEOPLE IN THE STRUCTURES WITH DISDAIN AND IF YOU ARE NOT CAREFUL IN THE LONG RUN YOU WILL BE LEFT ALONE. READ THE SIGNS.
Pedzisai

Tsvangirai needs to demonstrate democratic leadership qualities what he is showing now has no difference with what we are running away from Mugabe. Let democracy and the voice of the people direct you Mr Tsvangs.
Temba

These MDC breakaway polititians attempting to run for Senate are obviously keen on jumping on to the gravy train. In this country it is simply a game of chances. Otherwise how else can you explain the desire to jump into bed with ZANU PF. They will obviously be given farms and other such goodies. Mugabe always has a way to divide the opposition, this time the most fearsome and effective since independence and under Tsvangirai. These difiant senate hopefuls also see that Zimbabwe is about to meet a catastrofic turn around that might just see the demise of the mighty ZANU. And they do not want to be caught without anything in their possession. Just a greedy selfish lot. The Zanu machinery will stop at nothing to achieve their evil goals. I, including a lot of right minded Zimbabweans will definately be boycotting this extravagantly expensive event. \'though to be sponsored by printed money\'. I am increasingly becoming embarrassed to be known as a Zimbabwean. God pl!
ease help us.
Vivian

If democracy took over a millennium for the western civilisation to master, why do some misguided elements in the MDC feel the need to do so in 6yrs?
In the midst of chronic starvation on the ground, the Madhukus and the Matombos of this world are showing the way, for their big brother in arms to cut out the histrionics and get back to the business of reclaiming the people’s nation.
The senate shenanigans, comical as they were are well past their sale by date. The time is nigh to re-galvanise and align all efforts for the common cause of exterminating this brutal regime.
As a party founded on principles of democratic resistance the MDC cannot afford to haemorrhage much valuable credibility by engaging in unsolicited internal bickering.
Where are the founding revolutionary instincts of the party? Is the party’s radical antenna failing to pick up signals of a calling by the masses.
Come on Tsvangison!!!! there is a spark in the park, but where is the bonfire.
Odza


I am finding this weeks news so distressing - last week was bad enough. To all those in the MDC, please stop this division of interests. Can\'t you all see that this is EXACTLY what \"they\" want? Divide and rule, divide and conquer - come on, remember your history! It\'s well known that history repeats itself - but are we learning the lessons??????????? No - we obviously are not!! PLEASE stop this infighting - STOP with the tribal thing - Zimbabwe as a place, a culture, as a home to so many, is WORTH putting aside such machinations - until such time as we are stable again - today is the 40th anniversary of UDI - and we all know what happened after that.....Even prior to that date, conflict was widespread - can we move on now??!! NOBODY wants another conflict - and this present situation, at least to me who has lived here for 47 years, looks set for another showdown. NONE OF US WANT THAT....yes, times are b.....y tough but will everyone on the same mindset please T!
HINK. There are immediate issues that need to be addressed - with the upcoming senate elections looming, I say - vote if you have a choice - don\'t bother or spoil papers if you do not. I am one of the 150 000 who are now denied that right - SPEAK NOW - or know you lost the chance - yet again. My heart bleeds for this beautiful country of ours,which has lost so many who love this land. And I am only a Perm.Res. with no rights except to pay and pay and pay. FOR WHAT??? For the sake of this GodGiven piece of the planet - realise once and for all that we are all being played like pawns,like a fiddle - and you all know how Rome burned. Nothing was ever the same again - I am now, for the first time in a long time, really fearful about the future...we cannot risk conflict again - not now,not ever. But it seems to me, this is precisely where we are being pushed and quite deliberately...for ulterior motives which will not give anything back to the people. Ignore the news bulletins a!
nd look at your families and loved ones, who are immediately threatened. Civil war is real and looming - and I, for one, am very afraid....We need to bind now,not shatter.People, be strong now as never before - now is the time of our undoing or our becoming. In everyone\'s own way, fight for truth and for tomorrow and for our unborn....Love and light guide you
Nellie

MDC must fight for the people, Mugabe has PUNISHED us because fOR supporting MDC.
Mucha

NDIRI MUNHU ANOFARIRA NHEPFENYURO YANGU
ADMIRE

I was made wiser when I listened to two aspiring MDC senatorial candidates on the conundrum surrounding participation in the senatorial elections. Dr Shake Maya was at pains to explain to prospective voters on what benefit would accrue to the voters if he were to be elected. The other aspiring contestant whose ideas border on insanity thinks that if he wins the senatorial seat he would automatically form a new government. Quite strange is it not. Maya of the door to door campain fame, spent time making a veiled attack on Tsvangirayi\'s position on seeking alternative ways of dislodging the ZANU PF government. I am sure he said some of the things he said out of sheer ignorance of the party he recently joined. I even know that after he has been trounced he will turn back and blame Tsvangirayi. Maya should infact spend more time trying to persuade authors of the guinness book of records to include his feat of having garnered 3 votes in a 45000 plus constituency durin!
g the 2002 presidential election. Maybe I make haste, for he may have an intention to beat the previous record by scoring a zero.
Wakunjira

If what I read from the mirror is true about the views of Pro Senate group about creation of a separate Ndebele state is true I regret they have gone mad.
Are we calling for regionalism or triabalism or what?
People must remember holding different views about the Senate is not an end game that must result in antagonism. Progressive thinkers do not call for such rubbish but they should be calling for people to unite against the dictator they are seeing everyday.
Tsvangirai as a President of MDC have got the powers to deliberate on decision of every decision that affect the party. It will be dangerous to say that Tsvangirai must always be carried by decisions of a few who want to sustain their incomes.
The 33:31 vote they are making noise about was fixed by Welshman. This is not a resentless accusation because it is supported by the view that proxy votes were refused. If that is the case to say proxy votes should not be allowed ,are you not rigging the elections and when you assume office in future will you not just behave like the dictator that were are battling to unsettle.
Morgan Tsvangirai can call any meeting because he is the President and he can instead delegate to a Secretary General to do that.
When a delegation is done its not a switch in positions. In the real world ie corporate world thats why we have the corporate governance issue to deal with such issues of Dominance.
When the board is divided the issue is put through to the S/holders ie electorate who will decide.
I defend Tsvagirai\'s actions because the consultation process was done as a fixing game to pre -empty the decision of the national council.
The pro Senate group want to view Tsvangirai as a dictator I say no if he was why did he go and contest election in Buhera instead of Harare central were he is well known. It clearly shows you that he is not selfish and he always thinks about Zimbabweans not as divided.
Job

Morgan Tsvangirai has shown true leadership. Ncube and his gang of rebels without a cause are being supported by the state media, that should tell you something. The cat was let out of the bag when Gibson Sibanda called for a Ndebele state. They want to make it a tribal issue but its not. We need to get rid of Mugabe and we do not need any distractions from Mugabe\'s plants like Ncube and Sibanda. As for Chimanikire, feel sorry for the guy, he is a first class fool
Garikai


The problems besieging the MDC today is a case of history repeating itself. It happened to ZAPU (1962), to ZANU (1974/5) and so forth. Internal conflicts are necessary to shape people´s struggles throughout human history.
Jorge

Now that the MDC National Council met and majority of members attended. What is the argument for going to the polls?? I am sure in every organization there are times to call emergency meetings.That is what the President did.Can Trudson tell me why she wants people to vote.It ia a matter of time, only 20 days from now that we will see what the people want.People will not vote.Mr ncube and Sibanda you better form your own party.
Roger

the amount of suffering in zimbabwe today has reached alarming monumental proportions and for anyone to seek to benefit from RGM~s patronage and gravy train is treasonous to the embattled people of zim.so shame on you welshman and co.
Clayton

Known for years that Welshman Ngube is a Zanu PF plant Why do you think Mbeki is so keen for him to take over MDC.
Lindy

Bravo President.
Ncube and his company have been bought to betray us Aluta Continua.the fight for our freedom can not be won thru sitting with geriatrics. Wasn\'t POSA passed when they were there? are they not crying \\with us? Was n\'t AAIPA passed when they were there ? lets nto be fooled WElshmen must be kicked out like his fellow Professor;what\'s wrong with these professors they are too educated for our consumption let them be outavcasts with their degrrees
Bryan

tswangirai is right Ncube and his felloow self centred , selfefish and sellouts must go to heel they are not man enough.what we want in Zimbabwe is an aggressive conforntation of a regime that has stolen our future we can not ligitimise an illigitimate process from an illegitimate regime . Mugabe must die or he will be killed.
Mpiyezwe

Congratulations Violet Gonda on winning the reporters\' award! This just goes to prove that the work you people are doing to expose the \'Zimbabwe Taliban\' is indispensable. In spite of all the problems you have working so far away from home Zimbabwe is strongly behind you and grateful for all your efforts. Keep it up girl!
Chenjerai

Re: Violet Gonda - CONGRATULATIONS Makorokoto/amhlope Violet! You deserve it coz you work so hard and have zimbabweans\' plight at the core of your heart.Remember I once warned you that you are going to be a minister of social welfare/information in the soon coming new zimbabwe(joke). We are really proud of you!
Christine

Seeing that time is running out fast for Sekuru. How about suggesting a megga celebration at his demise. I suggest we can even start preps now. Even if he died 5 yrs later, it would only mean more time for organising, and that our celebrations better.
Tendo

Am responding on the senate debate,when we took part in the 31st March elections we knew that we were not going to remove Mugabe. Why did Tsvangirai agree to participate in those elections when he knew well that we were not going to remove ZANU(PF)? We are told that participating will \'drain the party of resoures\', is Tsvangirai not draining party resoures by travelling around the country indoctrinating the masses? If Tsvangirai could have continued walking to work and gave the poor the money that he is using in his convoy of a dozen cars l would have supported him. The fact that he is busy campaning makes him a hypocrit.
Ngqabutho

the media has been quite irresponsible in reporting about the current debate in MDC on whether the party should participate in the senate elections or not. We are only hearing Morgan Tsvangirai\'s view and the other side has been completely ignored. Are you reporting on what the people of Zimbabwe want or its what Morgan Tsvangirai and most media practitioners want?
We\'re hardly been hearing any women\'s voices except ofcourse Lucia Matibenga. How representative is she?Finaly let us not ride on tribalism in debating the senate issue.Tsvangirai insulted Nkomo in a rally on Sunday in Kuwadzana which just about shows that he is not a national leader for anyone in their right sense of mind know the symbol Nkomo represents to the people of Matabeleland, a symbol Tsvangirai so despises.
In sum, can we have balanced reporting on stories covered by your station not only about the MDC but even those about the Mugabe government and ZANU PF.
Linda

Despite the mistakes he had made Tsvangison is acting in the interest of the party and povo. Prof Ncube has become too reasonable and intellectual with the senate issue, but politics is about your power base - the masses.
Jorge

Why do these people leave home why ? because zimbabwe is not up to date if there was ever law or freedom of speach or expration there then thats was never going to happen so let your man robert mugabe enjoy the fruits of his chimurenga war let he and his mates meet his fate one day the people of zimbabwe will stand up and get rid of him where did you want those people to take they education to they fathers and mothers payed school fees for them to have a better life in zimbabwe but they got a raw deal so where do you want them to go suffer for that mad man and his thugs you can get a man out and down but what you cant take out of him is his eduction its all in his mind if you are a thug you will always be one leave us alone here this is not zimbabwe this is europe if i want to die here thats up to me if i want to denouce my self as a zimbabwean i have the right to do that this is not zimbabwe ok you can go to hell on the next flight i am now english you refused me !
they execpted me so like i said on the next fight go to hell ok
Tony

Thank you to give me this opportunity to make my observation. At first I used to consider your website in high regards.Not any more since the MDC saga.You are certainly a supporter for one faction.sorry to tell you that that faction will never ever rule our country.You as an experienced website have also suffered a lot from the Dicttator.You can you not understand the behaviour of the Dictator you has made you suffer that much? If you cannot truely see what is happening within the MDC? then you shall not serve any purpose as you shall tell Zimbabwean stories that do not reveal the truth.Shame on you.If the pro senate were truely democratic why did the not call for a rerun or even go to the grassroots toincrease their votes? If 31 vs 33 is a majority your site considers a win then please go back to the drawing board. Some months back Roy Bennet mentioned that Morgan Tsvangirai has surrounded himself with self enriching people who have no idea of what the MDC stands !
for and people thought that he was bluffing hot air.That was very true.The pro senate people have no interest in ordinary people.CIO has given them money that they want to neutralize the MDC. They will not succeed.Why don\'t they ask for a congress where officers have to be re elected? They will not retain their positions in the MDC.The people do not want what the proSenate are doing.Come next Congress.had Tsvangirai not put his foot down where will we be standing now?.In the hands of CIO.preferential treatment were given to Ncube during the treason trials and now he has to pay back.By making secrete deals.Please if your website is fair and has not interest in the pro Senate it should call for a re election of officers in the MDC including the presidency and whoever is voted will carry out what the people want.Your website is too far away from the groung to see what is happening.I personally congrstulate you Tsvangirai for refusing to be swallowed by the money Didmus Mutasa !
and Patrick Chinamasa are using to diluted some MDC MP to fight for Senate elections.Why can some MPs not want to be known on how they voted in MDC national council?I advise your paper to put on political spectacles and tell us what you see.With this type of feable mindedness you can not remove Mugabe.instead you are working for his entrenchment.My last question is Are you for the Senate??? If some people who call themselves lawyers really think it is worth to contest the Senate Elections them they need to know better.The masses of our country need people with enlightment who can see what will happen after some events.A good sign of a confused leader such as the top 5 lot is that they argue that the council voted for the senate so lets do it.That is called political foolishness or greedy .One of the applies no other alternative.
NMoyo

What is Junior Mugabe up to really(aka Tsvangirai)? Does he understand why the late Vice President Nkomo signed the Unity Accord with ZANU(PF)? He should stop dragging the name of uMdala in his battles with his friends.
Lizwe

I worked with the NRZ for 21years I\'ve always seen Gibson Sibanda as a determained politition. Now when it comes to him being a vice president of the party; i don\'t think with a JC certifcate it will work. I don\'t know Tsvanngirai very well, but I understand he\'s got the same handicap. So if you want to know from me,the bleeding of Zimbabwe is just begining. The phrase \"CRY THE BELOVED COUNTRY\" fits it well.
Wilfred

May I first praise you with the work you are doing, providing us with alternative source of information. As regards to participation or non participation of MDC in the Senate project, you are appearing like you have taken sides. Not only there has been more emphasis on MDC’s constitution being bent backwards to accommodate Tsvangirai’s wish according to most of the stories you have carried out. I think you can do better than this. It will be instructive if you would find out for us from those who are pro-senate why did they spend so much energy and wasting every progressive Zimbabwean’s time and hope opposing constitutional amendment 17?
There is more to this fiasco than meets the eye. People should not abuse our intelligence in this manner and expect us to support them. My opinion is that while Tsvangirai could have erred but that does not make the Pre-Senate lot saints. They should be held fully responsible for what is obtaining in the MDC. Are we getting another mirror image of the professor lambasting ZANU PF week in and week out but before we had fully digested what he was dishing out, he had swapped horses midstream, leaving us meserised and confused.
If the senate project is so important then we are doomed. The benefits are not hard to foresee. General life will continue sliding down.As a reminder, MDC come third in Tsholotsho, an almost safe constituent before the March elections. Does that ring bells.A quick look at figures MDC got will show what is in store.
Please go back to your objectivity,thats why you have been standing shoulder high above the rest.
Gomoramasare

I am greatly disturbed by my fellow colleagues in MDC like Welshman and his senate team .
It really shows that politically we still have those who should be allowed to mature because their short sightedness will back fire.
Yes some people might say they are on CIO payroll but even if you are given billions they shall not be able to buy support.
A war is not fought when you are divided and moreso if they had their opinions they should have weigthed that with the whole of Zimbabwe.
We want food,jobs and security not senate because it does not help us.
Some stooges were saying we will loose political space , I would be happy be happy for they to explain what they mean because these are useless words when you look at the challenges that my fellow countrymen are facing.
Even those in Zanu Pf are now regretting the Senate ideology because it is going to cause a lot of problems for poor Zimbabweans
Jacob

I wonder what MDC would look like without Morgan Tsvangirai.
Welshman Ncube likes sounding intelligent when he speaks, he is very pig headed. He Sounds more like a Robert Mugabe.
If he had been the one leading, the MDC would be in a Government of national unity with ZANU him being the minister of Home Affairs.
Thanks Morgan for giving direction to the party.
Innocent

Bravo President Tsvangirai.You are the only hope the poor.Pliz do not be distructed by the power hungry and self serving individuals around you.We support you 100%, be strong.
mhlanga

Shame to greedy people in MDC! When Roy Bennet said it very clearly that Tsvangirai surrounded himself with self enriching people at first I thought he was wrong.But surely he was right!!! Cam Mr Ncube explain why those who registered in some provincies were ferried in CIO trucks??? Why does Mr Ncube not want everybody to know how he voted? If the 5 of the top six were rational they could have said 33 vs 31 is close enough Let US take the votes to the grassroot to get a clear mandate!!! Yes I believe in democracy but if you see the way the top five are defending the 2votes majority it shows more has not yet been discovered.The top five are not the material to lead our country?? What power does the Senate have?? Mr Ncube (not Professor because Professorship is a job) should know better than I do.Shame to the greedy chimanikire, and Nyathi!!! Gentlemen I will not vote for you to occupy those positions. You do not qualify to lead our country with such feable minds.How!
much is the CIO giving you or should I say Mutasa.The people need a congress to choose better material. If you are so feable minded to defend a 2 vote majority under those circumstances I need to be honest to tell you that non of you have the quality to be even a District Commission in an MDC run government!!! look at Sepepa Nkomo!! shame to you! The Daily News need a better Manager who has displine! It is clear that it is time to pay back to the Mugabe government for favours given to some of you guys.If the Top 5 are confident they need to go to the grassroots for a vote in their positions.\"In the kingdom of the blind a one eyed person is king\" I see this as the logic of the pro Senate Ncube faction. You want money period Why did you vote againist the establishment of the Senate in the first place?? Or Mr Ncube you are not telling us the truth. You voted for the Senate in Paliament.Did you? tell your constitution the truth.Shame to the feable minds who infiltrated the MD!
C.Roy you are great. The so called lawyers with positions in MDC such as Colart you need to resign as you are not serving the interest of MDC masses. Why are you sticking to your positions?? If two vote(bought by money) are sufficient to make Themba Nyati bellow hot gas then It does not require a magician to see the quality offeable minds that infiltrated the MDC. I am very sad.
Tiro

My view of the MDC situation: We are agreed that the senate adds no value to the ordinary Zimbabwean. However, if something is put to vote, whether one is \"suspicious\" or not about motives, in principle, the vote should be respected, irrespective of our opinions. It cannot be OK for Morgan Tsvangirai to override a vote and not OK for Mugabe to override decisions. In your discussion, you felt that president tsvangirayi felt the vote was tainted by infiltrators. You support his override. president Mugabe felt that the vote for the constitution was infiltrated by detractors of black empowerment. Of course it is 2 different situations. But the consistency is that, it is 2 issues, put to vote by strong willed Presidents who had expressed their side of the equation and the result was not what they expected. Both used their own means of overturning the undesired decision. Those who sympathise with the Presidents will defend their Presisdents decisions. The wise thing w!
ould have been for President Tvangirayi to go back to the constitution to see what his next steps would be. The way forward: A national congress with the hope of reshuffling the leadership. the party seems too polarised to reconcile.
Simba

I am deeply troubled by the division in MDC. I listened to your interview with G. Moyo and i think the gentleman has it right. I am appealing to Mr Tswangirai and Prof Ncube to listen to what he said. You two should apologise to the people and lead the way for all the Zimbabweas to follow. I do not like both of you as individuals, but i like your combined efforts which is why my family and i suffered for the party back in Buhera. Forget about your differences and humble yourselves. Do not follow footsteps of Mugabe that led to the Gukurahundi. Gentlemen please, i know it is not easy for you to do this but if you sit down and reconcile your differences and publicly say that it is resolved, you will be remembered in the history of Zimbabwe as people who made mature political decisions. Do not forget what happened to Muzorewa in the first struggle. You are the champions of the second struggle and you have sacruficed enough so far and for you to destroy the work of you!
r hands like this is in no one\'s best interests. I do not want to talk about who is wrong and who is right here because it is too late. The issue is on how we can solve this problem before it degenerates into another zanu pf. Look at how zanu pf is celebrating when you fight. Mtukudzi said in one of his songs \'Chenjerai kununurwa makapingwa\'.
To SW Radio, thanks for the coverage and bringing different views to the programme. I realy appreciate your services especially because i am away from home. Keep on the good work
CG

Ncube and co are walking with lots of money in their underpants from zanu. we cant wait for congress now.Although he is a so-called professor, anofunga ne dumbu instead of his head. Viva tsvangison!!!! Long live Tsvangie!!The masses are behind you.
Dave

It's all Lance's fault
I'm not supersticious but why is it 2 weeks after your journalist Lance Guma conducted a debate on tribalism on his Behind the Headlines programme, we have this tribal fall out in the MDC. Guma knows something we don\'t and his fears have been vindicated. People are treading softly on this issue and not calling a spade a spade. 15 out of 26 bogus candidates came from Matabeleland. With a remaining 11 imposters jumping constituencies in the other areas. If anyone thinks this is not tribally motivated they need to have their head examined.
Tsola

I think it is a good idea to contest the elections than to do nothing and listen to leaders who do nothing.I`m very worried about people who didn`t say anything when ndebeles were butchered in the early eighties and now they start making some noises outside Zimbabwe.People in my Matabeland provinces should be worried about these people too.They defy tribalism but they don`t mean what they say.It is very stupid to talk about health,salary increase for civil servants,buying people food yet you well aware that is impossible for zanu officials to listen to that.And since Zimbabweans are planted through out the globe they think they can change anything in Zimbabwe through the stroke of the pen.Sicela liyihloniphe and licabangisise lokho elikushoyo.
Vincent

He put the issue to vote! how can we tell zanu to respect the vote when our own leader does not respect the vote !
You do not correct a wrong with another wrong . The first wrong being how the vote turned out , the second wrong being the dictatoral way Tsvangirai dealt with the vote results . Swradio is slowly slipping into a tribal site . I am disappointed in you guys .I am glad all this is coming out now because it means if the MDC were to take over,the continued marginilisation of the Ndebele and suppression of the Matebeleland voice would prevail.That is saddening especially when the MDC has been riding on the Matebeleland stronghold as its base .
Good for you ,at least we all lose .Rather than the Ndebele being used . I guess tribalism will never end
Disappointed

When asked by Violet Gonda where he stood regarding MDC participation in the forth coming Senate poll, Welshman Ncube said he had no opinion.
His feeble attempt to use the MDC National Council to justify his support for participation is not only disenginuous but in more ways than one betrays his lack of political maturity.
The only reason he is afraid to have an opinoin is not the problems/danger that this would create because of his position in the party- as he tried to explain in the radio interview, rather it is the logical incosistance that he would have to untagle himself from. For, how can one be against the bill that created the Senate as he was only a few weeks ago and now endorses the participation of MDC in the Senate. His lack of opinion is not a principled stand as he would want us to believe but a shameless attempt to undermine the MDC leader. I ask \'To what end Mr Ncube\'. In your defence of your position or lack therof, you reminded everyone of the importance of abiding by the founding principles of the MDC but to you I remind you also that the goal of MDC is not check the power of Zanu in one part of the country but change of government. Refer to your party slogan Welshman and next time spare us the National Concil constitution mumbo-jumbo and have some spine.
Temba

President Tsvangirai should flex his muscles further and fire those other five sellouts, they want to cause confusion and destroy the people\'s part. We need food in Zim not senate. Do we eat senate, do we drive using senate? Where do they think we get the energy to queue and vote for their friends? Senate is a waste of time, let them join UPM, otherwise Tsvangirai ndizvo.
Mudads

cant believe everybody thinks as i think. cant believe we all agree tribalistic tactics are old fashioned. cant believe we all agree morgan is this right. cant believe we all say chimanikire, sibanda, ncube, nyathi etc are spokespersons for jonathan moyo and his new party who need to be flushed away!!!! abasha senate, abasha jonzo, viva zimbabweeans, viva tsvangison!!!!
Zvabuda

I have a few words for Ncube and company,for all of you to be now known is because of Tsvangson.How many of you in parliament who voted against amendment 17,and what now changes your minds.Trying to play it smart because you are intelectuals.Manje madya izvozvo,povo yaramba and yatokurambai zvachose.You better use that intelectual instinct to join brother Jonathan\'s UPM before all the positions are gone.MDC is not for two headed intelectuals who say no to the formation of the senate and yes to the senate elections.The other thing you have to remember is the majority rules and not a few intelectuals or misguided greedy elements whose agenda is to fill their pockets at the expense of the povo.Povo yati kwete.We had buried the tribal lines,but your behaviors seem to have ignited it.If you want it that way,then bring it on,we are ready and we will show you who the boss is.Remember,the majority rule.
Jah

Allow me to comment on Morgan Tsvangirai\'s refusal to accept a majority decision of his own party. We all know that he has played into ZANU\'s hands and will therefore not spend time on that. I think he still believes that the party is Morgan and Morgan is the party. That is why we, who were once ardent supporters of ZANU PF, ditched it for the MDC, who we thought was as democratic as their name. It\'s unimaginable that a party that flaunts itself as a movement for democratic change rebuffs a democratic decision when that decision goes against the whims of the party leader. It is even worse to realize that apart from being beaten in the vote, Morgan failed to be man enough to fight the battle within the MDC and not let ZANU PF and the electorate enjoy the drama that is now unfolding. I doubt that he has the party\'s interest at heart. His only desire is (and I suspect has always been) to get into state house \"by hook or crook\" like he once said. It is disconcerting to note that the qualities that we loathe in Mugabe so much are as ingrained in Tsvangirai\'s mind as in any other ZANU PF thug. At least Mugabe has the decency and intelligence to RIG elections so that when results come out, he can declare himself the victor. Tsvangirai lacked the intelligence to realize that his profile will be gangrened if he refused to accept his OWN party\'s decision. What was the point of taking it to a vote if that vote will not matter after all? The tragedy of it is that a leader of his might even goes further to lie that it was a 50/50 decision when in fact it was not. Posterity will judge him by his incessant and abysmal failure to win any election and his avid desire to then announce in megaphones after the elections that \"we was robbed\", then progressing to challenge election results. That has been his brand mark with national, presidential, legislative and indeed his own party\'s elections. Is this the sanctimonious Morgan who vilified ZANU PF for thugery and violence?
Is he the same grand leader who is now recruiting youths to not only shout \"pasi na Welshman\" but is even physically attacking his own lieutenants, issuing death threats to his critics, threatening to burn down homes of those who dare register their senatorial candidacy? There is a newspaper article of an MDC candidate who has fled to South Africa following death threats from Morgan\'s faithfuls. Hey, we ran away from Zimbabwe from threats by Mugabe and his youth. Imagine what Tsvangirai can do if he got blessed with the might of the army, the police and the intelligence service. If a man can be this bad to his own before he ascends to the throne, are we not better warned now than wait? Does this not remind us of Mugabe\'s record with Tongogara, Nkomo, and many others whose names and lives have sunk with their blood which Mugabe spilled?We could understand if ZANU PF cheated him, but here is a man claiming an Iscariot type betrayal. At least Jesus did not unleash His might on Judas and he died with sympathy. Who is the Judas I wonder? Who used to sit next to Robert at every May Day celebration at Rufaro stadium I wonder? I would urge MDC faithfuls such myself to remain united and fight the real enemy and not side with attention seekers. Tsvangirai can remain clutching onto his own version of the Movement for Dictatorial Change.
Gmoyo

my contribution on the mdc challenges, i dont want to call it a crisis coz its not, we just need Gibson Sibanda to swallow his pride and talk to his collegue Morgan Tsvangirai becoz they are behind the formation of the mdc and the two of them got the mandate from the workers, and Sibanda has forgotten where he came from, we dont need leaders who think they are bigger, and intelligent than the zimbabweans themselves, zimbabweans are very intelligent and they think and at this pointing time they dont need an election and they dont need leaders who are greedy and put their own power struggles in front
gertrude

These MDC-Senate-\"Candidates\" have, mind You, also families to look after in the future. Is a seat in the senate not an excellent income-insurance? There are may be more than political reasons behind these candidatures. Is anybody trying to find the personal motivations or do we have to rely on guesswork only?
Greetings
Bernhard

I support Morgiza 200% those Ncubes and company are Zanu Pf activists. If they want they can form their own part and see who is going tom vote for them. They shd remember that President Tsvangirai is the face of MDC. without him we are doomed. Vana Chimanikire havazikamwi, akaruza kuGuruve akatizira kuHarare. He shd shut up.
mdads

Tsvangiz right coz we wont bother voting as well anyway so these guys Ncube & all a sheer waste of energy.everyone knows the results even b4 the 26 so why waste our tym & energy.there\'s no food thus no need 2 waste little energy we have thank u
kalonji

this is very worrying indeed, I have lost confidence that mdc can bring us anything different. I hear some of the same proclamations for having \"truth\" on their side as I heard from Zanu. Such statements are worrying. It;s important that the MDC mantains a strong allegiance to its principles of governance especially in the process of debating and deciding key party strategies. However in it for themselves themba nyati and co are, what it is far more dangerous is that tsvangirai vetos proposals that he has doesn;t agree with. What will he do when he has a sick zanu PF legislation backing him? Will he veto a new constitution?
Hayden I have been following the events taking place at MDC and have a piece of advice to the Ncube faction that their days are numbered in MDC.The backbone of any political party is it\'s voters,not leaders.We will see who the boss is.
Jah

guys you are doing extremely good work to the whole of truely partritic Zimbos.Keep senting me hot stories like you are doing.
CHEERS GUYS.
Fartso

Everyone is happy with President Tsvangirai. He should fire the other five - everyone will support him. They are shameless!
Chamunorwa

Some sections of the indpendent media ,which are biased along tribal lines tend to be patronising the ncube faction instead of telling the facts as they are. This is a further strain to the one and only viable oppossition party in Zimbabwe. They are focusing on reporting the negative impulses that tsvangirayi is suffering from his decision and not highlighting the consequences associated with participating or not participating in the senate election. I stand by Tsvangirayi and every ndebele andshona who is suffering in Zimbabwe and will not be deluded by Zanu PF. Zanu Pf is like the devil who will use any possible tool to cripple an the masses, he knows people\'s weaknesses and in this instance Zanu Pf has used the need of power by of some MDC leaders to attract them into destroying their party.

These elections are wrong and MDC will never win them but instead if they participate, the international community will end up having no basis of isolating the militant zanu Pf leaders because it will appear as an indication of democracy and Zanu pf with a majority in both houses will keep on adjusting the zimbabwean constitution in the presence of the MDC parliamntarians and still calim to do it democratically.I commend your publication for not being triabally biased.The others need to learn from you. We need a leaders who put people first not their bellies. We have had minority opposition MPs in parliament for 5 years but things have not got better so why should we have senators in there. Some of the rebellious MDC leaders seem to be very educated leaders, why cant they make educated decisions.
Jona

i personally think MDC is not supposed to participate in an election whose outcome is already documented. why should MDC participate in an event whose aim is to strengthen mugabes hold on power.
Claud

keep up the brave spirit mr tsvangirayi. the masses are behind you. the pro-senate faction has just proved to be sellouts and probably a zanu pf brainchld. now that ncube and company have been exposed its time they just kiss the party goodbye. im positive tsvangirayi will emerge stronger from this impasse and leave ncube go with the whirlwind.....go morgan go .....
Nyamu

I am really disapointed in the MDC. I saw it as a way forward for us but this division is proving me otherwise.Ncube(He and his friends) should at least see sense and apologise to the president Mr tsvangirai and give him the respect due .He serves the interests of the people.Well done tsvangirai,we are bahind you.
Mollyn

Tsvangirai is right, how could you, if you are sane, participate in this kidding senate election. What purpose does it serve? It is good idea this Ncubes come of the MDc. They are diverting our course. It shows Ncube is unilateral with Mugabe. He must shut up he is wasting our time. He thinks he is the only one who is a proffessor in zw.
I do not trust him any more, a wicked and hypocrit person he is.
Forward with this struggle sons of the soil.
Martin

Please continue your good work. It seems your site and Zimonline remain committed to the main goal of liberating us from the evil Mugabe. Some journalists are being sponsored by the likes of Mawere,Jonathan to vouch for the 3rd way. Tribalism and personal interests have taken over , whilst issues of national importance are overlooked. I am an ex Zipra combatant and I am Ndebele. I remember in Zambia we had the people from all over Zimbabwe participating in the War. I know for certain that Paul themba Nyathi is not a tribalist(he ran Zimbabwe Project Trust, an organisation that assisted former combatants with establishing projects).The common enemy is Mugabe. Jonathan Moyo might be Ndebele but he is a sellout and not a king maker.
Jupiter

I do not think the media should be party to the solution in divisions in MDC and what Nyathi ,Ncube ,Gift Chimanikire and Sibanda are doing is total betrayal of the struggle.
This group is just a damaged political condoms who are being driven by greedy. Tsvangirayi is the leader of the party and he has to lead.
The people of Zimbabwe must be very careful about these lads acting in cahoots with enemies ,Nyathi\'s indications at recent press conference thinks Tsvangirayi should have resigned because of their vote which is the real point of all these schemes.
If people remember very well three weeks ago Nathaniel Manheru wrote an article in the Herald which was a prediction of the departure of Tsvangirayi and replaced by Gibson Sibanda and Welshman being the Vice President. After that they will then implement the agreement they have signed with Zanu Pf of a power sharing agreement were Mdc will be a junior party in government.
The fundamental question which should be asked is .Who is a friend of Nathaniel in MDC!!!!!
And who is trying to jump into bed with girl he does not like!!!!!!!!!!
What does Mbeki have to do with MDc when he has failed to deal with the proper dictator!!!!The schemes of this nature also happened in 1963 when Zanu and Zapu emerged . Many people might blame Zanu PF for events that followed but it could have been forced to do that.
Do these cahoots want to have 22 presidential candidates like in liberia
Jacob

AFTER ALL THIS, ITS TIME TO CLEAN THE MDC.ALL THESE SELLOUTS SHOULD BE SHOWN THE RED DOOR AND JOIN THEIR MASTERS ZANU PF AND MBEKI.HOW DO WE EXPECT TSVANGIRAYI TO WORK WITH A COUNCIL FULL OF CIO.THEY MUST LEAVE MDC, IF THEY WANT THEY CAN FORM THEIR OWN PARTY OR JOIN UPM.MDC IS PEOPLE\' PARTY NOT THEMBA, NCUBE,SIBANDA OR CHIMANIKIRE,NEITHER IS IT FOR TSVANGIRAYI.ITS ONLY BECAUSE TSVANGIRAYI HAPPENS TO HAVE THE PEOPLE\'S INTEREST AT HEART.VIVA TSVANGIRAYI,DOWN WITH NCUBE MBEKI.
Sadza

I applaud morgan tsvangirai for taking a principled stand, and i am convinced po=eple are prepared to give him a second chance after the fiasco on how he dealt with the senate vote.However i see this turning into a tribal thing and its sad.
I just want to make a comment about your coverage of the MDC crisis. I have noticed a consistent position of your station. It seems you support the Nyathi faction at the expense of the truth. Most of your stories give Nyathi a lot of space to say unqualified positions and in some cases a lot of untruths. There is need for balance. This is so becuase in this case, Nyathi is not acting as a party\'s spokesperson but a mouthpiece of his faction.
For example, in your story on 20 October, Nyathi purpots that he was only saying the party position on the outcome of the election. That is false becuase Morgan Tsvangirai is the spokesperson of the MDC national council not Nyathi. That decision was supposed to be communicated by the President of the party unless he delegates that duty to Nyathi.
If your radio station is to remain credible as it has always been, you need to be balanced especially on thorny issues such as this one.
Simply put, your stories should be balanced. Until there is nolmacy in the MDC, any accusation against the other faction must have a response from the victim of the attack.
You should desist from being participant observers in the unfortunate misundertstandings that have a potential of strengthening Mugabe\'s dictatorship. Leave that to some bogus media institutions that have already taken clear tribal positions against a section of the two factions.
Pedzisai

MDC should be decided and show good character of politics
Ndaba

I washocked to read about the allegations made by Job Sikhala against the MDC top leadership for allegedly fighting for US 500 000.
Firstly, Sikhala pretends that he is neutral. He is not. He supports the Ncube faction. He is unhappy that his faction failed to topple Morgan Tsvangirai so he is now trying to use the press to damage Tsvangirai.
Sikhla tries to come up with dubious allegations against the party leadership, the public should made aware that he stole upto $ZW ONE billion from his pocket organisation called the Center for the Rehabilitation of Torture Victims (CERETOV) leading to the collapse of the institution. He then assisted his long time college friend Charles Mutama who was the executive director of CERETOV to run away to the USA in order to conceal evidence.
He then told the NORAD, the donor that money was stolen by Mutama. What was interesting was that, Sikhala and Mutama were the only signatories to the account.
An audit sanctioned by NORAD also revealed that Sikhala and Mutama stole money. The donor becuase of its sympathies with opposition politicians had mercy on Sikhala and did not report the matter to the police.
To verify this SW radio can call Mapurisa Kuzipa and Taurai Magaya some of the employees affected by this theft to authenticate the allegations. Inquries can also be made to NORAD.
Also interesting was the fact that Sikhala married a Parlaiment security guard as his second wife using stolen NORAD funds.
I am saying this becuase Sikhala is the gretatest pretender and wants to appear as an upright person.
Isacc

Just to say thanks guys for a job well done.You are keeping us well informed.
Mollyn

I`m solidly behind the principled stand taken by Mr Tsangirai.
I say sham on the other top 6 members who have fogotton that they were put there by the people not Mbeki or Mugabe.They can resign enmass to joy their now favorate associates Mbeki and Mugabe.
They still have milk on their nose and could not make the simplest of decisions.Now insteady of consulting or selling their notion to the people who they claim to represent they are consulting with Mbeki.What a sham.
Looking at the anger these people have, one wonders if they`re promised something by Mugabe if not being bought.
Anyway mwari ndewevanhu vese.
Kefacy

Look my fellow zim brothers and sisters you people in zimbabwe never want to learn anything you the people of the M.D.C stop takeing in people from zanu pf in top posts they are out there not to help but bring you down dont mix any of your idears or thougts that is what brings you down all the time these people are also here in london ireland germany usa they are the children and brothers and sisters of zanu pf but i dont take any rubbish from these people cause i tell them stright go back home and make the things right and then may be we can talk but they know that they will never cause they fathers mothers brothers sisters and who ever are just like they own thugs so why mix with these thugs Morgan think of the people of zimbabwe not the goverment but the people behind you from the start we here over seas once we see there is a plan in you we can do something with the big guys here and fight to get rid of these jokers but now when you start to bring in to your ho!
me a thug what would get take your own and teach them the right way and feed them with rebuilding and hope but not of theft but good vision you wil make out a good party not to go pick up rot from another party you will bring in junk and rot think Morgan think for the best of how you started zimbabwes only hope is from you look at botswana south africa countries which could never ever match us not one bit but today they call us makwerekwere think dont let your nation down think for the best and you will win the people will support if they see something real about you and the party act like a leader and forcus like a leader and you will have a zimbabwe with less thugs and those less if they dont follow the rules lock them up and throw way the key thats what they know and understand God bless zimbabwe for the best lets fight for the best
Tony

We greatly appreciate the efforts your establishment is making in endeavouring to give the public an unbiased side of events occuring in zimbabwe.however , not all people have access to the internet , hence it would be of neccessity to use other means of information such as fliers and pamplets.I would alsobe of great assistance if you opened a televisio channel that broadcasts forcefully because mugabe is too evil and will not allow free competition and the free floww of ideas.
Tatenda

I SALUTE PRESIDENT MORGAN TSVANGIRAI FOR HIS COURAGE .WE CANNOT LEGITIMIZE RUBBISH MUGABE BY GOING TO THE SENATORIAL ELECTIONS.
Patson

Welshman Ncube and company are hungry to feed themselves not the nation.They should know that we are the ones who voted for them not MDC EXCUTIVE.Lets rally behind Tsvangirayi, He is %100 right.Even if they participate in senate they won`t win because we are not going to cast our votes. Lets wait and see who will vote for them.
Clemence

Message: MDC Reconciliation - National Council meets to nullify/rescind its decision to participate in the Senate elections. Morgan apologises for taking the CORRECT DECISION in the wrong way. The other leadership ought to learn to respect Tsvangirai as their leader. It is pretty plain that they seem to have used Tsvangirai\'s popularity to ride to fame but never respected his views on elections and Mbeki. Abolish the post of Secretary-General. It leads to unnecessary power struggles. I read the MDC Constitution, again. It suffers from being anti-Zanu(pf) and so dilutes the power of the President too much.
Musamaria

The divisions in the MDC were inevitable and encascaple but thoroughly exposed the reformist wing of the opposition party led by Ncube.
Ronald

This group misled Zimbababweans on the Senate issue when it was clear they worked with ZANU PF. Why would they oppose Constitutional Ammendment NO 17 in Parliament when they new they wanted to participate. why did\'nt they simply agree from the onset.This is treachery of the highest order. On one hand they want to particpate in the senate elections but on the other hand they do not want the regime to confisctae their passports, unless this faction was promised by ZANU PF that their passports would not be taken away but Tsvangira\'s.The other thing that the public should know is that the NCube faction was not interested in the issue of elections but to overthrow Tsvangirai. This is so becuase, the so-called academics in that camp are fully aware that they are going to lose that election. ZANU PF already has 16 seats and it needs 18 more out of the 50 to win a majority. So, if it was not about a coup against Tsvangirai, of what significance is the particpation issue.
Secondly, the Ncube faction new that a direct call for the removal of Morgan would fail, they took the cover of elections.Now that they have been uncovered and that the grassroots are clear that the so called pro senate lobby was a disguise to topple Morgan, some of the provinces are withdrawing. I know of people in that faction who are constantly boasting that Tsvangirai would never rule Zimbabwe and wished that he should have been convicted of treason. So from the word go, it was clear to me that the strategy was to remove Morgan.Morgan should have realised this before and called for an earlier congress to determine the future of the party and to renew his mandate.
However, Morgan made a big mistake of entering into the council vote, lose the vote and refuse to accept the outcome. That is not done. He should have done a lot of work before the vote and decide to contest or not. To then refuse a constitutionally binding outcome was a bit extreme but that is politics
Pedzisai

Going down South for advice shows that the pro-senate camp is being remote controlled.
Its not for Mbeki to decide what happens in MDC as he has failed to broker the impasse in Zimbabwe conflict.
We will wait and see
Jacob

Whilst i agree with Tswangirai\'s arguments that we should not participate in the elections, I am very disappointed in the manner in which he handled the vote.This does not bode well for Zimbabwe if a \"democratic\" leader dictates to his subordinates.What then is the difference between Mugabe and Tswangirai?They are both dictators and we do not need such leadership ever again in Zimbabwe.
yvonne

i salute sw radio africa for bringing to us \"the undiluted zimbabwean news keep it up do not turn back.
vincent

There is no reason of going in the Senate elections when in previous weeks you were opposing amendment 17 unless its now collective madness. Tsvangirayi is doing the right thing of realising that he needs the masses rather than the top six.Some leaders think through spies,cows think through smell and progressive leaders think through the masses.Participation means you are part of the problems for Zimbabwe and Zanu Pf strategies is to use such small elections as tasting waters then follow it by bigger elections. People must ask what was the significance of the referendum,followed by general election and presidential in 2002. In 2004 we had Zanu Pf primaries that were done in Opposition strong holds to taste the water then this was followed by general election.So if Mdc goes in Senate elections this will be used as a barometer for presidential election and that can be next year.Not participating does not make you marginalised as advocated by Welshman thats too academic you play your groung work with the masses not Zanu Pf.
Let Zanu Pf has its own agenda and MDC have its own progressive thinking not being given agenda and just follow like timid sheeps.
MDC have to engage a marketing view were they sell theyself to the masses and beat Zanu Pf systems.
You can only win with the masses not through policies of being patient followers. Policy issues are announced by the president of a party of which participation was suppose to be part of that.
Jacob

Tsvangirai is right to decline in participating in Senate elections. Any normal leader would not attempt to participate in these showdy elections except cronies of the Mugabe regime who get praise from him and are given farms like Welshman Ncube and Paul Themba Nyathi who have been exposed of back biting their leader through negotiating with murderers in return for a federal Matebeleland.
Durani

The issue now is not about taking part in the senate elections but its about internal democracy. Tsvangirai must respect the desicion of the majority or else he should go!!!
Ngqabutho

The whole thing smacks greed and thinly veiled tribal factionism. All this talk of impeachment of the party leader is taking democracy too far and missing the bigger picture. The MDC pro-Senate faction seems more interested in pursuing legal proceedings against their own yet Zanu PF steal election after election and commit murder after murder in their faces. Under prevailing conditions there is a thin line between leadership and dictatorship, so what if Mr Tsvangirayi actions may have bordered on the latter, after all he has a mandate from the people.
People have no food, no fuel, no medicine but against all this, it beggars belief that some MDC members are prepared to squander scarce national funds on this legislative farce.
The argument about surrendering democratic space to Zanu PF is superfluous dribble quite frankly and should not be allowed get in the way of the MDC leader and youth taking a radical decision that is surely resonating with the rank and file on the ground.
Odza

when I Listen president Robert mugabe at food world program I can see and urderstad that president you are still young keep it up. I was listening your speech . I think the late hiroe forMocambiqwe Samora Machero when he said how can you keep on solder uniform when we are free in our country Yes weare surferring in Zimbabwe but keep it up you are the one in this zimbabwe Bob I WILL NEVER FORGET THAT SPEECH yOU ARE AMAN IN MEN. Thank you .
zanu ...(wait how did this get in?)

We are now ashamed of even arguing for a party that is supposed to represent democracy in this country.
Cool Cat

BRAVO MORGAN TSVANGIRAI. WE ARE ALL BEHIND YOUR DECISION .LET THOSE WHO WOULD LIKE TO JOIN THE GRAVE TRAIN GO.
gurundoro

I believe the MDC is wasting time and resources it could have used to fight the enemy. They are loosing focus fighting each other. They should not forget that their sole purpose is to remove Mugabe and build a better Zimbabwe. Not to get into details of the technicalities of what went wrong, whether Tsvangirai violated the MDC constitution or if the other faction of MDC have a valid reason to participate, the bottom line is they (MDC as a whole) criticized the formation of the senate and by default if they don’t want to be hypocrites then the whole discussion about the senate election is a waste of time. There should not even be any people in the MDC thinking of participating in the elections. If the MDC fails to resolve this issue they will loose support of the people and resolving the issue does not involve participation.
Shamirai